Who may sign?
- The doctor signing the form Cremation 4 ("part one") should have treated the deceased during the last illness, and seen the deceased within 14 days of death.
- A partner may be acceptable if the attending partner is away and he or she has seen the patient previously, but the Coroner should normally be advised.
Cause of death
- Modes of death (such as 'multi organ failure' or 'heart attack' are unacceptable.
- 'Old age' is acceptable for registration purposes where the deceased is older than 80 years, but it is unlikely to be acceptable for cremation purposes and medical referees may make further enquiries. The cause of death must be ascertained.
Other points
- There is a new question on form Cremation 4 which asks you to "describe the symptoms and other conditions which led to your conclusions about the cause of death".
- You should give full names and address details of those who nursed the deceased or were present at the death.
- You must give the deceased's last occupation if he or she was retired or not in work at the time of death.
- You must state whether any persons present at the death have any concerns regarding the cause of death.
- You must give details of any discussions with the Coroner's office.
Comments from Nottingham Medical Referees
Relatives now have a right of access to the completed forms. They may ask the Medical Referees for clarification, and so the forms need to be submitted at least 72 hours in advance of the cremation.Undertakers
- Please try to determine the last occupation of the deceased.
- Please state the relationship of the applicant to the deceased.
- Please try to give information about implants.
Doctors
It would seem sensible to discuss the cremation papers with an appropriate relative before you fill them in. All information needs to be independently verifiable so it is important always to give names and contact telephone numbers.Form 4 (old "part one")
- There needs to be some indication of the deceased's last occupation.
- The death must be discussed with the coroner if you haven't seen the deceased within 14 days before death.
- Q9. You are expected to give an account of how you formed your conclusions regarding the cause of death. This may include some past medical history, history of events leading up to death, diagnostic test results. If you include history from a third party please give names and contact details.
- Q11. Old Age is no longer acceptable as a cause of death save in exceptional circumstances. If the cause of death cannot be clearly determined the death should be reported to the coroner.
- Q12. You must give details of any operation within the preceding 12 months. You need not report such a death to the coroner if you believe the operation had no bearing on the cause of death, but it would be prudent to report any operation directly relating to the cause of death (e.g. a bowel resection in someone who died of colon cancer) or in the month prior to death.
- Q14-16. You must give names and contact details of people who nursed the deceased or were present at the time of death, and you should talk to them about the circumstances of death.
Form 5 (old "part two")
- You must check Form 4 thoroughly and highlight any errors or omissions. You should not amend Form 4 yourself, but bring them to the attention of the first part doctor (who should come and correct them) and make any comments under "Reasons for disagreeing" under Q7.
- You must speak to the first part doctor and at least one other person who has knowledge of the circumstances of the death.
- Q2-5. Where it is not clear, please give some indication of how this person may have knowledge of the death (e.g. Mrs Smith - nursing home matron, or Mr Jones - son of deceased).
- Q7. If you tick the box to say you agree with the cause of death you no longer have to complete the section below regarding the causes of death. But if you do complete it, please make sure it is the same and in the same order.
Source: letter from Dr Nick Page, December 2008